Arlin Moore | The Importance of Mindset and Thinking for Yourself

Hello, welcome back to the Alchemist Library podcast. Today we are joined by Arlen Moore. Arlen Moore is a YouTuber and entrepreneur and we sat down for a very fun, very wide-ranging conversation One of my favorite ones today, for sure. I'm so excited for you guys to listen to it. We get into talking about Arlen's program Maxi a bit in this one. Arlen was kind enough to give you guys a discount code for Maxi if you're interested in trying it. Maxi is a goal-setting productivity and mental reprogramming tool that uses AI to help optimize your life. It's a very cool tool and I use it myself, so I'm very excited to hook you guys up with that. The details are in the description below. Now enjoy an uninterrupted, enjoyable conversation with Arlen Moore. Catch you inside. Are you doing this work to facilitate growth or to become famous? Which is more important Getting and letting go. Mr Arlen Moore, welcome back to the pod.

I'm in a home in the town that I grew up in and it's very nice here, so I'm in good spirits and I'm excited to have our talk today.

It's well, bro. So do you find when you're in Cape Cod that you Like because when I get home I feel like I kind of fall into some of the same habits Don't really love seeing all the same people from high school and stuff like that Like, do you find yourself almost becoming the person that you were before you moved away and did all this stuff?

You know yes and no, but I actually think that it's a good thing if I return to some of the habits that I had growing up here. You know, because I grew up in a very artistic household. I think we talked about that last time, but you know, even in this room that I'm in right now and, just to be more specific, my parents just moved to this house a couple of years ago and I come here every summer for two months August and September and my mom's a painter, my dad's a photographer, so there's just like art all over the house. My dad is just doing photo stuff 24-7. When I'm here, my mom is doing painting stuff and it's just an incredibly artistic atmosphere to be in. And so, you know, art is creation and it's a very creative energy, and so every time I come back here, I just I get like almost more creative than anywhere in the world, and my biggest phase of growth, my biggest initial phase of growth, was in when I was living with my parents. You know, I was starting my YouTube channel and I was doing this 100 day challenge, where I was uploading a YouTube video every single day and I grew 100,000 subscribers while living under my parents' roof and that's why, you know I think I gave this advice in like a short form video recently, which was you know, if you are making less than $100,000 a year, or even if you're making less than a million dollars a year, I highly recommend living at home for like two or three months a year, if your parents will have you, because you save money, you have dinner prepared for you, you have a loving home, a loving, you know just energy, and this is if you're lucky, right? Not everybody has this, of course, but if you can and, by the way, I think some people have it, some people can salvage this Like I really recommend working on the relationship between you and your parents. Again, if possible. It's not possible for everyone, but if you can do that, you know, it's just such an advantage. I was talking to one of my friends, his name's Chester, and he makes millions of dollars a monthly and he and I have been talking about like literally now he's like you know what. I just realized that all this external stuff, like this $500,000 watch that he's wearing, the penthouse in Dubai that he was living in, it's all just a distraction from what actually matters, which is building and growing your business, your company, but in addition to that, your family. You know, I wrote this down recently in a training that I was making, and it was that the two most important things you can do as a man are to conquer, to conquer the world, and then the second most important thing is to share that piece of the world that you've conquered with your loved ones. So I feel like living at home with your mom and dad, if again, if possible, if you're blessed enough to have that kind of situation, you're able to accomplish both You're able to conquer and then you're able to simultaneously share it.

It's a good point, because the focus side of things like when you're living on your own, you gotta clean, you got to do laundry, do the dishes, cook like all this stuff that obviously great to do and you have to do it, but it just distracts from the main thing and it's more time consuming than people think Like it actually does take up a bit of your focus. Yeah, yeah, it does. So if there was one concept, one idea, something that's had the biggest impact on you, it could be a book, just an overall idea, something. What do you think that thing would be?

The biggest thing that has impacted me, the single biggest thing yeah, I'd have to say in order, it would be, obviously, I think, number one. It's like your connection to higher power, to God, to source, that's the number one, most influential thing. It's your immediate connection to whatever this entire realm is that we're living in. That's the most intimate connection that you can have, is your personal experiencing your own body, and so that's manifested for me in a variety of ways. I would say my awakening. I think all of our spiritual awakenings took place the moment that we entered this world, but the I would say my awakening to my connection to the divine and God and higher power began around when I was 14 and 15, and I was experiencing a lot of anxiety and negative thinking patterns and just darkness, and a lot of people perceive difficult times to be bad and to they look at those times and actually even for a while, up until I was about 23 years old, I perceived the period of time that was the hardest for me as negative, as a bad experience. But I now look back at it and I realize that the awakening process is a lot akin to a caterpillar turning into a butterfly, if you ever look at a video of a caterpillar turning into a butterfly, and I can just see my short form video editors finding an animation of this Like of a caterpillar. It looks disgusting. It's this gruesome process that looks really painful, for that caterpillar to then eventually turn into a butterfly. And it's the same thing with your soul and with your awakening process. You're constantly just battling these forces that are reshaping you into a much stronger human being, and that's what the awakening process is. It looks terrible, it looks painful, it looks, you know, difficult, but every single person that has accomplished anything great at one point went through something extremely difficult, and every single person who's experienced a spiritual awakening of sorts went through that period of darkness. And so when I look back at those times years of my life that were the hardest those were actually some of the best times because they were the times where I was experiencing the most growth. So number one is you know the connection to the divine and the process through which that occurs. The second I would say is my parents are the second most influential force in my life, and I think that anyone would be lying if they said that that wasn't the second most influential force in their life. You know the people that literally put you on this planet from their own flesh they are. You know they're influential. Your parents are influential in ways that you probably aren't even aware of because you are made of their genetic code. You know, I talked to Gary Brecca recently at Luke Belmar's event in Spain about this quite a lot, and he talks about how you know you have your core genes that come from both your parents and if one of those genes is broken, you're unable to process certain nutrients, you're unable to basically operate at a capacity that a normal, functioning, high level human can operate at. And this is what Gary Brecca talks about. You know the process of giving your body the proper nutrients so that your broken genes, which your parents gave you, can operate functionally. What's interesting is that I actually recently got a genetic test done through Gary Brecca's protocol and I saw that I have two gene breaks and these are from both my parents. Right, and what's really interesting about the gene breaks is one of them is the MTHFR gene break. The other one that I have is the Comp-T gene break and these gene breaks together. Basically what they do is they formulate an imbalance, because I'm unable to process certain nutrients well, and because of this I'm a perfectionist. I have a very high standard for myself and the people around me. I can get, and I'm prone to, anxiety and nervousness and depressive thoughts, but at the same time, although in the genetic code, like these things are broken, at the same time those also drive me and have made me who I am. So your parents literally influence you without even being there, like even if my parents weren't there. Right, I'm made of them, so of course they're an influence. Of course they're a massive influence and it's worth looking into that influence. I highly recommend checking out Gary Brecca and the whole 10X protocol. It's very interesting stuff. He would be an incredible guy for your podcast as well.

You're coming soon, bro, coming soon.

Yes, yes, so that of course. And then that's the nature, and then there's the nurture and how your parents raise you, and I think about that all the time. My parents are both very artistic. They are, I would say, growing up a lot of my friends. Parents are like lawyers and doctors and construction and very feet on the ground work, and meanwhile my friends come to my house and my mom's in the backyard painting flowers and my dad's, like you know, photographing a rock, you know, and like it's just completely in the ether, like they're just operating in this like spiritual plane that my friends would come over and be like what are they doing? What are you guys even pay the bills around here, you know, like. So I'm definitely influenced heavily by that and I think that's good. So those, those, I would say, are the top two influences in my life.

I love how you broke that down and like that first part I mean, dude, that's the reason why the podcast is called the Alchemist Library like that, taking that thing that you perceive as a negative and turning it into the thing that propels you forward and makes you the person you are. It is alchemy and it's a beautiful process and I love hearing it said just because it's such a common theme throughout, like every podcast I do just people being able to take a negative event and turn it into a positive.

Yes.

So, with all that stuff that you were saying with your parents being a huge impact on you and just really this fundamental understanding of connection with the higher power and the obstacle being the way, if you were to have your own school and you were to teach some of these things and some more esoteric things like, what do you think your curriculum would look like if you got free reigns and they were like you get a high school?

So the motto of my edge I have a school right, I run a school, I run a couple schools, I run the tribe and I run Maxi Okay, and the methodology that I put in those schools is the methodology that I would put into a traditional education system. And if you look at the tribe accelerator the cult tribe as I call it Instagram account, the motto is this is a cult that encourages non-cult, like thinking right. In other words, think for yourself, always think for yourself, and it's kind of a play and like an irony, you know, I encourage people to think independently. Most schools teach the same curriculum and there's a test and everyone has to have the right answer right. So in my field of thought and in the way that I grew up in the world of art and painting, for example, there's no right way to paint a painting. So why should there be right ways to think independently? Why should there be right ways to solve a math problem? Why should there be right ways to do literally anything? Now, this obviously brings up morality and, of course, I think there is a system of morality that we should all follow, and that's a topic I can go into a little bit, but let's start on the very first principle, which is just thinking independently. I also think, and there's a really great book that was very influential to me and it's called Against Method by Paul Firebend, and this is a very uncommon book that you will hear anyone else on your TikTok or Instagram read talking about. It's called Against Method and part of the reason is because if you read this book, the odds are that you're not going to understand almost any of it, and I spent a very long time trying to comprehend this book and what it was saying, and I would read it after a meditation, I would try to read it slowly, I'd try to read it fast, so I would really try all these different ways of putting it into my brain until eventually I came across a way and ironically, I'll explain why this works. I finally understood the book and you know how I understood it. I took pictures of the book, the pages of each chapter, and I put the pages into chat GBT. You can actually take a picture and then, when you take a picture on your iPhone, you can copy the text and you can take that text and put it into chat GBT. And then I said to chat GBT please explain this text to a third grader. I simplified the text to a third grader and when I did that I understood it. I finally understood it. And what the text really means against method and it's kind of in the title is essentially anything that science says is true. Any universal truth or any universal scientific method is useful, right, but it's not the only method for discovering truth. The text in the book and the philosophy behind against method talks about how you can basically apply any form of knowledge acquiring to add to your truth and what that means to you. So, for example, in the traditional schooling system they give you a history textbook and they say this history textbook is true. Then you go into your environmental science class and you learn the scientific method and they say this is what truth is. Then you go into your math class and you learn a specific way of solving a derivative and they say this is what truth is. And then you go into your English class and you write a paper and your teacher is grading the paper and says this is what truth is. But if you really apply against method and you look at other ways of acquiring truth, right, for example, in your history class, you've got the history textbook, but then you've also got, for example, youtube videos. You've got, for example, going out into nature and going out into your local town and asking an old man on the street about what he thinks of history. You have qualitative history. You have, for example, all of these historical reports from the other side, from the other perspective. You know, history textbook is really only presenting one side most of the time, and it's the side that the school system has chosen. But what if and you're reading an American history textbook you're gonna learn about the Native Americans? Well, why don't you go learn history from the Native American tribe that's still around and you ask them what do they think happened, right? So I hope I'm painting a strong picture of this. But the point of Against Method is to essentially take whatever traditional learning styles are popularized and whatever texts are popularized and to say, okay, that's one way to learn, but in order to really gain truth, you have to acquire information and knowledge from tons of different sources and sources that traditional science would deem stupid, right? So you know, a lot of people nowadays think that reading something like and I actually have a Bible right here, funny enough like reading this Bible is stupid, right? I actually thought reading a Bible was stupid for the first like 25 years of my life. And then I was like you know what? I'm just gonna pick one up and I can read it and there's a lot of truth in there, you know. There's a lot of A. For example, jesus, I learned, is the most documented human in human history, right? So there's probably some truth in that, you know. So I would, if I were to create, you know, and I have a school system, I teach very specific curriculum in that school system which we can go into. But if I were to create a more holistic school system where I was teaching, you know, math and science and all of that, I would incorporate a lot more methods than just the one scientific method. If I were teaching health, I would have, you know, case studies from doctors and from, you know, human biologists, equally weighed with how, for example, the Amish live, right. So a doctor might say, you know, in this scientific study that if you eat, you know, raw milk, or if you drink raw milk, or if you eat raw eggs, then you could develop this disease, right? But if you go to the Amish village, they're eating raw eggs for breakfast and drinking milk out of the cow udder and they are living for a lot longer and having a lot happier lives and are a lot more nutrient sufficient than your average American. So I would have this like incredibly strange and weird and opposite seesaw approach to education, where you're taking from like the traditional school system, you're learning there, but you're also learning from, like the exact polar opposite spectrum that that system disagrees with. You know, for politics, right, I would teach, I would tell my students, go home and watch CNN and then, immediately after you watch CNN, go watch Fox and then, after you watch CNN and Fox, go on rumblecom or Odyssey and look up John Zirka and look up, you know, some of these crazy conspiracy theorists and learn from them and see what they're saying and think independently. Find I would say find 10 perspectives, not just one or two. Find 10 perspectives and then see which one you align with the most. And the challenge and the test would be to constantly have people argue other sides of different spectrums. I think it's super interesting how and I don't wanna name anyone specific, but I find it extremely interesting how some people, people particularly, if I'm remembering, in college you know college students they will be so convinced about their political opinion. But if you ask them to explain the philosophy or the standpoint of the opposite side, they don't have a clue. All they've done is memorized one frame of reality and one frame of an argument and they think it makes sense and they just run with that and they get offended when you ask them to argue the other side. And you know why. I think it actually is and I actually was this person, so this is. I can tell you, this is why the reason people get offended. For example, you ask a liberal leaning person why do you hate Donald Trump? They'll give you a million reasons, right. But then you say why do you think a conservative likes Donald Trump? And they'll get upset. But how could you? You know, they're just stupid. It's like the reason is because the reason they get upset is because you're threatening their entire understanding of reality. That's why they get upset. Okay, it's not because they actually understand his entire platform and they understand his views, right. If you ask someone who there's a really standard question they believe that the earth is round, they believe it's a globe, and you tell them do you know that there's like a large percentage of people that think the earth is flat, they go. Well, that's just stupid. It's like, okay, well, do you know why they think it's flat? No, they're just dumb people. Okay, you really haven't thought independently, you haven't explored If you can't iterate or reiterate someone else's opinion better than they can themselves, and you don't really know anything. So the first principle of my school system would be to think independently. Okay, and I tell my students all the time, in tribe and in maxi, everything that I'm teaching you. I welcome you to disagree with it, I welcome you to try the exact opposite of what I say, and I encourage that. Now, the second thing that I would teach is I would teach how to make reality do what you want it to do, and I would teach the nature of reality and the nature of essentially divinity, because the way that reality works is very interesting. As a human, you're able to influence reality, but only to a certain extent, right? I believe that God's source, higher power, whatever you want to call it has a general plan and system for you, but, at the same time, gives you the reins to operate within that system. And I would teach the basic principles of how to operate in the system of reality, in this realm that we're in, in order to get exactly what you want. You threw a lot of great knowledge out of us right there.

I mean, dude, to start just the thinking independently stuff, the way you brought it together with against method. It's such an important note solely for the fact that if you find yourself in a situation where, medically, let's say, like you're told that there's no hope, like you have an autoimmune disease and I think that's a great thing to do you have the hope, like you have an autoimmune disease and it's incurable and you take because we looked at doctors as these beacons of knowledge and we take their word as gospel. But if you have this framework and understanding that like there's probably different sides of truth here, you're able to then not take that person's word as gospel and then go read on Reddit, see what people are doing with that same condition you have and there's just so many different perspectives and you can't really take one person's word as gospel. Or you'll find yourself in a situation where you're feeling hopeless and we know how big the placebo effect is and the no-cebo effect.

Well, here's. This would be like class number one if I were to give it to my students, and I would show and prove the existence of God and what God actually means, because most people don't have a clue what God means and I would show that all of the scientific theories actually perfectly align with a divine creator and or universal source energy. Right, and it's very simple to do. All you have to do is start with science. You take a sophisticated microscope and you look at atoms under a microscope. You will see they are composed of protons, neutrons and then electrons orbiting them at a very high speed, at a very high velocity, and an atom is like 99.9% space and 0.01 or 0.000001% matter, meaning the proton, neutron and electron only account for 0.000000% of the space that makes up an atom and the rest of it is just space energy. Okay, so if the very basic component of what we are composed of as humans is mostly space, like I'm talking into this microphone, I'm holding my cup of coffee and this is 99.9% space, 0.0001% matter, okay, that empty space is energy, it is source, okay, and when you understand that, you go what is there? What else is there? What is the space, what is the emptiness and how do you influence that and how do you work with that? Well, that is God, that eternal void, that eternal space, that 99.9%. That is the realm. That if you, as a human, understand how to operate with that realm and how to get that working for you and with you, you are able to experience a lot more to life than the physical, than the.0001%. And the thing is that people who operate as materialists meaning they only think that you are just flesh and bones you are literally missing out on 99.99999% of your capacity as a human. Because, think about it, think about people who operate in that flesh and bones state, right, they think that this human meat suit is all you are and there is no energy involved or whatever. Right, it is just who you are, is what you are, and you grow up, you die and that is it. There is not much potential for the extraordinary to happen there. But if you look at most of reality as essentially open to molding it, right, because it is mostly space and you can essentially input intentions, thought, energy, right, and this is where you start to think about okay, well, what is in that 99.9% space? Well, it is mostly energy. What is a thought? Well, a thought in the material world right is an electrical impulse from a neuron, from axon to dendrite. You can actually look at thoughts under a microscope and you can see in a brain scan what it looks like when someone is sending a thought. But a thought is more than just an electrical impulse, because it is passing that space, information that we can't interact with in the physical world, but that we can think about, the reason that I can stand here and I can look at a glass of water. You have seen this experiment, I am sure, where they tested this. They had a glass of water under a microscope and they are looking at the atoms and the composition of the atoms under the microscope in the water, and the human sent a thought form of love and that changed the structure of the atoms. Then they sent a thought form of hate and a thought form of anger and a thought form of jealousy and they sent a thought form. They had the human thinking about a tragedy that happened to them and something that made them very excited, and every single emotion that the human thought about and felt. While they were simply looking, placing their human awareness on the glass of water, the molecules in the water changed form based on the emotion that they were feeling, and they tested this with different emotions and with different people, and the way that the molecules interact is different based on the energy that the person is sending to that glass of water. There is another study that was done about the frequency of emotions that people feel, because you can literally measure there's machines that can measure emotions and the energy that's emanating from a person's brain, and the most powerful energy to emanate from a human is authenticity. That's the most attractive force in the world is authenticity. So yeah, that would be my first lecture is just teaching about how most of reality is physical sorry, is most of reality is not physical, is just space and energy and the rest of it is the physical. And so if you understand and learn more and you explore more of the spiritual side of the empty space empty space, right, that's just energy and frequency you're able to learn a lot more about truth and about how to live your life as well.

And that is a beautiful segue into Maxi, because at the essence of Maxi it's figuring out how to get the universe, God, your ancestors, whatever you want to call it to work with you, not against you, and to almost rig the game in your favor. What is the what is Maxi in his essence?

Yeah. So, as I mentioned earlier, I went through a darker time in my life and my dad growing up had bipolar depression and so I think probably a lot of that had an effect on me. And again we talked about genetics and so I was prone to this like depressive thought patterns and anxious thought patterns and insomnia and panic attacks. And around the time I turned 18, I discovered the world of personal development, of mental reprogramming, of how do I, how do I become someone that can actually choose their thoughts, how do I become someone that can wake up excited for the day and motivated for the day without an intrusive negative thought, with positive thoughts flooding me all day long that propel me in the direction of my dream reality? That's ultimately what I wanted and what I obsessed over for years, and I studied neuro linguistic programming. I studied the whole field of neuro plasticity and how the brain can actually change. Because for a while I thought, if you watch the news and you see the commercials in between, the news, it's what does it say? It says if you experience thoughts of suicide and depression, take this pill because you're basically eternally screwed, because you have a condition you have. We're told that depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain, and I didn't want to accept that, and so I studied neuro plasticity. It's an entire field dedicated to how, even if you do have an imbalance in the brain, you can change the brain. And I learned how to change the brain, and I learned that if you change the brain, you can change your entire life, because reality is initially composed of thoughts, and our thoughts lead to our emotions and our emotions lead to our actions and our actions lead to our physical reality, and then, once we see and observe our physical reality, we can decide if we like it or not, and then we can go back in and change the thoughts at the beginning again, and then we can change it in a consistent circle. So what I did was I started experimenting with all these different mindset practices and I came up with this method, and at the time I was living in Boston and I had these in my kitchen. I had these cabinets that were whiteboards and I had this method that I was planning my week and setting my goals by writing on the cabinets on the wall in my kitchen, and it's a very specific system that I figured out, and then every night I would listen to a recording of my goals and my dreams, and I would just use my phone to write out my goals and then I'd press speak and I would listen to it. And then one day it just kind of hit me in this moment of inspiration, that I could turn this into a functioning program, into an app, and this was in 2020. And I had this epiphany moment. I called my friends who were developers and I was like, what do I do? Do I have to raise money? Can you build it for me? What do I do? And they basically told me about this thing called NoCode, and NoCode is basically the ability to build a SaaS, a software, without knowing how to code. You can use pre-existing platforms to build programs, kind of like Legos. And so then what happened was the pandemic hit, and I spent essentially the entire pandemic building and perfecting this tool, maxi, this mindset reprogramming tool. I built version one. I released it to 30 people in my audience. They came in, they tried it, they gave me feedback and I made it better. And I let another 30 people in. They gave me feedback, they tried it, and then I made it better based on the feedback, and I let another 30 people, and I just did that for basically six months straight, collecting feedback, making it better, collecting feedback, making it better, and through the process, I helped thousands of people with this tool that I created, with this process. And you're probably wondering what is the process? Well, maxi has three parts. The first part is master vision definition, the second part is 80-20 planning and the third part is what I call mindset design. So 99% of people don't have a clear vision for their reality. They might have some parts figured out, but for the most part they're just drifting and they don't have a crystal clear definition of who they are and where they're going. And what happens is, when you don't have a crystal clear definition of who you are and where you're going, you become subject to the visions that other people have for you and you become like a puppet. So you don't want to be a puppet, right? You want to be the one controlling your own strings. You want to be the puppet master for your own identity that you are creating. So the first part of Maxi is helping people sculpt their identity and defining their goals for their life. Most people don't know how to do this, most people avoid the activity altogether and most people don't realize that you have to constantly do this. This is something you have to do, it not once a year. This is something you have to do every time you level up, because, let's say, you have a goal to make $100,000 a year and then you hit that goal. Well, if you're not growing, you're decaying. So you have to set a new goal, you have to reinvent yourself, you have to become a new person, and I find this happens every six months or so. So the first part of Maxi is that entire process of goal setting and constantly reinventing yourself to hit the next level, and the next part is 80-20 planning. So now most people don't have goals. Of the 1% of people that actually have clear and distinctive goals for every aspect of their life, 99% of them don't have clear and effective plans to achieve them, and the reason they don't have clear and effective plans is because they don't know how to set clear and effective plans, because they don't know what the 80-20 principle is. The 80-20 principle is a universal law where you will see in nature, where you will see in every poll ever taken, where you'll see in every election. Where you'll see, basically in every pattern around the world where, on average, 20% of inputs lead to 80% of outputs. Let me break that down. So let's say you are. A really easy example is when you're studying for a test. Let's say there's five ways to study for a test. You've got flashcards, you've got group study, you've got rereading the textbook, you've got going to the teacher for after hours and you've got just like writing the answers over and over again in your notebook. If you really think back to when you were in college, of all the group study sessions that you went to, how many of those group study sessions did you actually learn and how many of those did you actually just screw around and talk to your friends and not comprehend anything, right? So one out of five of those activities is useless, okay. Second activity going to your after hours with your teacher, where you're just kind of like talking to the teacher and maybe you're reviewing some concepts, but are you really memorizing? You're really putting into your head? Probably not. Then there's the method in which you're just writing down the answers. Is that useful? Perhaps, but it's not that useful. The next method is rereading the textbook. I don't know about you, but for me, rereading the textbook never worked at all. For me, the most effective thing and I think I speak probably for most college students the most effective thing is flashcards, making flashcards and then just reviewing the flashcards. That if you do that single thing and you skip the group study, you skip the teacher hours, you skip the rereading the textbook, you do that single thing, flashcards you are going to get more results than if you did all of the other things for double the amount of time as you did flashcards. So the point is there's a few set of inputs in every area of your life. We're not just talking about school, we're talking about every area. We're talking about your business. Here's another example my first business that was successful was a clothing brand. When I started this clothing brand, I thought that the more items I had on the store, the more money I would make. So I had 150 items on my store. I had sweatshirts, t-shirts all different colors. I had socks, hoodies, notebooks. I had pillows, pillowcases, I had winter jackets, I had sweatpants, I had 150 skews and different colors of everything and I thought, wow, this is great. And then I found out about the 80-20 principle and I thought you know what? Why don't I look at my top selling items? And I just went into my Shopify store and I clicked the most selling items and I was astounded because what I realized was that 80% of my sales were coming from three of the items on my store and I saw that it was a black hoodie, a black t-shirt and a black long sleeve. Those accounted for 80% of the sales out of 150 items. And so what I did was I eliminated 147 items and I left the three, and the next month I made double the money. So that's the 80-20 principle in practice. And with Maxi, what you're doing every single week, every single time you think, okay, what am I gonna do this week or what am I gonna do tomorrow? You are asked questions in a very specific way that get you to pinpoint the actual actions that will move the needle forward toward your goal. So most people right, if they set goals, they're doing the group study and they're doing the teacher hours because they think they're being productive, but that doesn't do anything. You wanna do the flashcards, you wanna identify the flashcards in your life. So that's part two. Part one goal definition. Part two effective planning and effective action. Part three is mindset design, and this is where I studied NLP, neuro-linguistic programming and neuroplasticity and I found out that if you really wanna create sustainable change in your life, because some people again, they might know what to do, they might have goals, but for some reason they just can't level up, they can't seem to change who they are. They feel like you can't teach an old dog new tricks and you are how you are. But what I figured out how to do is to directly communicate with the subconscious mind, and I created a tool that's able to directly communicate with your subconscious mind, and so, with Maxi, you have an audio recording of your goals written in the third person, so it'll say something along the lines of Ryan is creating a number one podcast in the world. Ryan is becoming, ryan is getting into the best shape of his life. Ryan is building amazing relationships that get better and better every day. And then the AI powered voice assistant reads your goals as you're falling asleep Because as you're falling asleep is the most powerful time for you to influence your subconscious, which is directly responsible for 99% of actions in your day. And as you play this, as you're going to sleep, it goes directly into your subconscious and starts to influence you so that you can become a new person and transform to someone who's capable of achieving those goals and taking those 80, 20 actions. And so Maxi is a tool that takes all of that, combines it into one effective platform. We have thousands of users around the world that are using this, and people are losing weight. People are making more money than they ever have. It's really pretty impressive to see the types of people that are using this and that are getting results, and that's Maxi.

It is so apparent when you talk about stuff with Maxi, I mean talking about the stuff before, with the school stuff as well. One, you're such a good speaker and two, I can see why you have this cult following and I use that word very deliberately because, one, you mentioned it before with Maxi and cult tribe. But as I look at my own analytics of the podcast, I've had episodes of people with millions of followers and I've had people with these audiences who, on paper, are like so much bigger than yours. But when it comes to them showing up and them being excited to consume your content, it's second to none, like the response compared from your audience to someone else's. That on paper, is so much bigger. It's so interesting to see and it reiterates the point that we talked about very briefly in our first episode of True Fans, and I would love to just quickly dive deeper into that idea of True Fans, because obviously it's something we all want to cultivate and I think very few people have done it as well as you have.

Yeah, I'd love to talk about it, and it's something that I actually consistently revisit and I feel like in the last, actually, month, I have revisited it to a level that I've never hit before, so I'm really excited to talk about this. So, yeah, the way to build True Fans is to build a ridiculous amount of goodwill with your audience, and this happens in a number of ways. Right, this happens in A on a basic frame, just providing a ton of value to your audience. What is value? It could be entertainment, it could be education right, it could be a combination of the two entertainment, let's say. And from the very start of my brand, I read Gary Vaynerchuk's Jab Jab, jab Right Hook and I really took it in. I said you know what I'm going to make? So much content, so much high quality content, the highest quality and quantity of content that I can create, to the point where people will be begging me to buy something from me. That was my goal, like, I want to deliver so much value. That, like and actually I had a mentor of mine give me this anecdote His name's Owen Cook, still a mentor of mine and friend actually, now, which is cool. It's cool how your mentors can become friends if you work hard enough. But Owen had this video and he was saying how he's and I was listening to so much of this guy's content at the time when I was like 18. And he said he has people come up to him in the street crying and they almost have this weird energetic reaction because he's delivered so much value to them that they just pull out their wallet and they hand him money. And so when I'm thinking about my brand from the beginning, I'm thinking to myself I have a lot of work to do, I have a lot to create before I'm ready to sell. So I created over 100 videos before I released again. I said my first business was a clothing brand. That was after probably 20 videos of people asking me to produce a clothing brand so that they could buy it. And yeah, the thing was, what happens is you kind of create this energetic deficit with your audience, where you've just been giving so much positive energy and so much light and so much knowledge and so much entertainment for them that they karmically owe you. If you think about some of the people that you listen to the most or that have given you the most in your life, you are karmically indebted to them, like the universe is forcing you to have this emotion that you have to give back, and so, obviously, the goal isn't necessarily to just create so much that people have to give back to you. That's not like the end goal. The goal is in the creation itself, and so what's funny, too, is the more fun you have creating, the more I focus, for example, on becoming a better speaker, on becoming a better storyteller, on delivering higher quality energy to the people listening to this podcast, higher qualities of presence to the people getting this right now. The more I focus on that and how good that feels, the more value people get, and then, of course, the more value that they want to give in return. So, yeah, it's a super interesting concept and again, I felt like I needed to revisit this because I felt like I kind of forgot that mindset, that mindset of like, if you're really building your brand right, you have people asking you how they can support you, how they can give back to you, and in the last month, I was like you know, I need to do something like like I need to give at a level that I've never given before, and I started thinking what can I do. Well, I have this program, tribe Accelerator, which is, you know, my next level up, and Tribe Accelerator is a network of mostly six, seven, eight figure entrepreneur men who are looking to improve their social life. Okay, they're doing well in business, but maybe they don't have friends that want to travel, maybe they don't have an Instagram presence or a personal brand, which is another thing I'm an expert at that is attractive. They just have a lackluster social presence and Tribe Accelerator comes in and solves a variety of problems for them. And I put years into the creation of this program and I thought to myself well, what is the first problem that I help guys in Tribe Accelerator solve? Cause there's about seven problems that I help. There's a lot more than seven, but there's seven macro problems that Tribe Accelerator helps solve, and one of the first problems is having a bad personal brand, is having a bad Instagram presence. So, although I normally charge, you know, a five figure investment actually, sorry, four figure investment to get into Tribe Accelerator and to get access to my personal branding, my Instagram, coaching, I just said you know what, I'm just gonna make this free. This is normally something I literally charge thousands of dollars for and then I've put years of my life creating and I'm just gonna put it out there for free. And so I created the Instagram engineering free course and this is a several hour training program with, I think there's 12 worksheets with audio recordings of each episode, with transcripts from each episode, and it's available on Spotify, youtube. There's a community component and again I wanna emphasize like this is a program that I spent years of my life putting together and I just put it out for free. So the response from my audience has just been like oh my God, I can't like. They are so and if people are interested in checking it out and joining, you can. If you DM me on Instagram the word Instagram then I'll send it to you. I'll see it. If you just say Instagram, it'll send you to free program. But my mindset going into creating that was just like I need to get back to a point where every day, my number one focus is not on, is not on. You know, how do I make more money with my businesses? It's how do I create so much value that people feel like they have to give money in return. So that's been my mindset, with 1000 Truefans and often, I think, a way that you can get to that point and I'll give a little bit more of an inside story about how I decided to give away an entire free course was my first thing was like, okay, well, what I can do is I can make a guide that shows people like which pictures that they should archive from their Instagram, because a lot of guys don't know this, but their Instagram is actively repelling the people that they want to attract and their photos are so bad and they don't even know it. They think they're good, but they're actually repelling people. They're breaking basic laws of persuasion and influence with their photos and they don't even know. So I thought, okay, well, I'll just make a guide, a free guide basically called like how to unscrew your Instagram, and I'll give that away for free. But I was like that's not enough. I need to give 10 times the value of that. So that's why I decided to release the entire course for free and that just built. I mean, I literally got 1000 people to join in the first day and there's my 1000 true fans right there. Thank you, exactly that's what it's all about. Hermosi's been a big influence to me as well.

Did you catch any of his webinar?

I didn't watch the webinar, but I read the book $100 million leads, yeah, yeah, I mean that was actually largely influential in putting out the free course that I made.

You touched on that. You've really improved as a speaker and a storyteller and it's evident throughout this episode, for sure. But as a podcaster, being a better speaker and storyteller is something that's front of mind for me, for sure. So, selfishly, I'm very curious what you did on that front to improve.

Yeah. So this is kind of another thing that I think I used to really obsess about, which is what erupted. A lot of my success early on was studying how to become a charismatic speaker, and after a while, I think, I just got complacent with the audience that I had built and I stopped focusing on it as much. And what I used to do and what I started doing again was I started studying comedians. So back in the day I would study a couple comedians. I would study Dave Chappelle and John Mulaney. And if you just watch some stand-up comedy and you pay attention to their delivery and the way that they tell stories and the way that they tell jokes and the way that they captivate the audience and the way that they switch up the tone of their voice and the way that they sometimes whisper, then you're able to pick up more and deliver more just through your delivery. And so I'm actively right now. I have like a few people that I'm studying and it's not I'm not like taking a course on this, you know, I'm just thinking who are the most captivating speakers and what are they doing and how can I imitate them? And when you start imitating success, you become successful.

It's such a simple and important note when you start imitating success, that's how you become successful. It's powerful. So who are you studying right now?

Okay, so there's a few people that I think are really good at delivery and really captivating speakers that, right now, are crushing it, and one of them is, I think, john Zurich. Goes really good. I think he's hilarious. I think part of the reason he's really good, though, is because he talks about, like you know, the Egyptian torture chambers and like weird conspiracy theories, and the earth is flat, and he's got all these crazy ideas, but he's also screaming, and I'm like rewatching some of my podcasts, and I'm like, fuck, I'm so boring, bro, like, and so I'm thinking like I gotta, I gotta like do some coke or something. You know, like John Zurich, I'm gonna or captivate him, but so I think about that, and I there's another one is Rob Deardic. I was a huge fan of Rob Deardic's fantasy factory growing up, and he's got an incredible podcast that I've been listening to and just studying the way that he speaks, and he's obviously been doing this for a long, long time on ridiculousness on Rob and big on Rob Deardic's fantasy factory, so I've been listening and studying him, and I've also been listening to not listening to as many podcasts, but every time I see a short form. Luke Belmar's stuff is great, you know he's. It's really interesting because he'll just come in and he'll say you know, king Solomon, he didn't ask God for riches, he asked God for wisdom. And so what I did is I asked God for wisdom and then, you know, it came. Then came the riches, then came the watches, then came the card. And he's got this really interesting, like ethereal sort of exaggerated identity that he's built for himself to the point where, like, like what I found is a lot of the most captivating speakers are they're just very exaggerated versions of the identity that they've created for themselves. You know, most people are like fragments of what they could be. They're, they're like one-tenth delivery, you know, and they're monotone. And but here's the thing, some people like, for example, you like I think you're a really captivating speaker. You might not be John Zirco, like screaming at the microphone, but you like and I told you this the first time but like you, you have a very like. It's kind of like Eckhart Tolle. You know, like Eckhart Tolle is, he's not out there like screaming, but it's what it really comes down to is the quality of presencing your voice and how much present moment, awareness and energy you put into your voice. And there's obviously lots of bells and whistles. You can add on to that, but again it goes back to authenticity. And if you're just speaking from an authentic place, of wanting to deliver value, of wanting to entertain, of wanting to inspire, then the intention is also key. You know, if you actively set the intention before you speak on camera, that you want to have a positive impact on the person watching, that's going to authentically shine through. I actually, often, before I record this is another kind of, I guess, secret is I'll meditate. You know I meditate this morning. I'll do breath work and then I'll set my intention and it'll be something along the lines of like I want to inspire every person listening to this podcast today. And you can picture the people listening, even you can picture the smiles on their faces. You can picture them, you know, wanting to work out more, wanting to go on a run, wanting to build something bigger in their business. And that all starts with the intention. Right and again, now we go full circle back in the beginning of this podcast, which we talked about energy and awareness and physical matter and space and that intention. In my opinion, if reality is 99.999% space, what is in that space? To me, it's the intention that you set at the beginning. That's the majority of what that space is. But that's not a physical matter, that's an energy. So be very aware of the intentions that you have, because sometimes people again, if you don't choose what you want, if you aren't choosing your intentions wisely, you're going. You are actively putting out intentions. It's just might not be what is the most actionable for your goals.

It's a great point because I find oftentimes for people they get, they see what rewarded them right, like, like for the podcast. For example, my first couple episodes that went viral were like bodybuilding, weightlifting episodes and there was that desire in me to just become that dude and make the podcast solely based on that stuff. But because I had the intention set in stone that I wanted it to be like this, more holistic thing, I was able to stay more true to the person I was. But I find so often people would get rewarded for one part of themselves and then go full steam ahead to that part. Have you found that for yourself at all? Like in this world I mean, you've been in it now for a while Since you get rewarded for maybe a certain type of video or some stuff on social media, the Instagram stuff have you felt that pull at times to just be like okay, I got to go all in on this one thing, even though it's not what I want to be doing, but it's just the thing that I'm getting rewarded for.

Yeah, there's a really powerful song lyric that I heard this morning by a guy named Forrest Frank.

You may have heard.

You probably heard his song. It's like it went very viral on short form content. It was like, even in the valley of the shadow of death, I get undressed because the living God is ringing in my chest. It's called no Longer Bound. Anyway, he has another song lyric that says I just turned down a milli so I can spend more time with my son. Y'all don't get it. I can't gain anything if I've already won. Y'all don't get it. So the idea is right. He's like this young artist he's got a son, he just turned down a million dollar contract that probably had him like touring and like being a pawn, you know, to someone else's intention and someone else's system. But he's like I don't need the money. I think the next lyric is I was already, my cup was already full when my bank account was none. So it's like you can't add anything to someone that already has a full cup. And the question that you asked was you know, have you had times where you know the result and the outcome of the thing that you got, based on your original intention, distracted you? Has that ever distracted you from the reason that you create in the first place? And the answer is absolutely. I mean, I've had, you know, I've had so many, so many times in my life where the original intention was pure and because the original intention was pure, right, for example, I want to make videos every day that bring inspiration, enlightenment, humor, laughter and positivity to millions of people. That was kind of my. That was my original intention when I started making YouTube videos, and one still when I make content today. But what happens is, when you create that, that intention is so pure, it attracts all this other stuff to you in the form of views, validation, money, validation from people you might respect to, people you might be attracted to. It attracts the money. That attracts the cars and houses and all the other stuff. I think you start making new content with all this stuff that's now been added on to you and you might lose that original intention. And it's exactly as you're saying. You know you, you had the original intention to create this holistic podcast and share wisdom from different areas, and you may have interviewed someone in the fitness industry and then you get all this validation from the fitness industry and it's like, no, it wasn't the fitness industry that gave you the wisdom, that gave you the the success. It was the original intention that created that. So it's important to always look back at you know at least, I tell myself this. It's important to always look back at the original intention of why you're even doing everything, and I think so many people, myself included, can get lost in doing things based on you know, based on outcomes, rather than based on the initial intention.

It's so interesting. I think about like niching down and it's something that I've battled with a bit and I'm curious your perspective on it, because my interests are so wide, like they vary so much, and the advice I keep hearing from people is niche down, niche down, niche down. But at times I feel like it would alienate a part of my personality that I would be curious exploring as well when it comes to like developing a niche. Is that advice the same as the intention?

I think that there is sort of a two-sided coin where you know, on one hand, you want to grow your audience, you know you want to reach more people and one of the ways in which to do that is, of course, dominate a certain niche, right. But on the other hand, you know you don't want to lose out on other aspects of your part of personality that might be a completely different area of the podcasting sphere. So I mean, I think that because I, you know, I've, in a similar way, I've looked at this with I would compare it to like my program to Tribe Accelerator. You know I have, you know I have when I first started it was just Arland's mentoring program and I was like, oh, I got a niche down, I got a, you know. So so what I did is I basically I took everything that I'm most excited about, that I've always been most excited about, and I niched into that. And I would bet that you know, you, you know you're interested in a lot of things, but you can take the top five things that you're most interested in and make that your niche and it'll still be niche. It won't be that diverse Right. So, like, for me, it was well, I like talking about improving your social skills. I like talking about personal branding and I like talking about self improvement and those three things create a Tribe Accelerator. Now I still talk about health and fitness because that's related and you can always relate it back to your niche. You know I always relate how improving yourself in the gym and focusing on yourself first makes you better in social situations. I don't know, from my perspective. I think your brand is awesome. I think that it's. I wouldn't even suggest like niching down further. I think you have a niche. I think your niche is just Ryan.

I appreciate that. Yeah, I mean that niche of one. It's something that it's. It's not something I think you could have done in before the internet If you were somebody who had this. I mean, it's hard to have a personal brand before the internet, but the internet really allowed you to be this like multifaceted Renaissance man and show like all of that side to yourself so interesting. Um, but for you, arlen, so we spoke. Our podcast was probably like six months ago, right, the first, our first time we spoke, what's called six months. Has anything changed for you in mindset or just in your life since that, since that point?

Yeah, definitely. I mean, I think I've really looked at business and how I'm building my businesses a lot differently. And there's yeah, I mean there's been a couple phases of my entrepreneurial journey. The first phase was I wanted to do everything myself and I never wanted a team. The second phase was okay, I see the benefits of having a team around me, but I don't really want to have a team bigger than like 15 people, because that just seems stressful. But then what I realized is like all right, well, I want to build like a giant organization that affects millions and millions of people. So now, and what's happened in the last six months, is I'm much more open to building a lot bigger company, because I realized that, with the impact I want to have, it takes a lot of people, it takes an army, and so that's been the biggest shift for me is like I, you know, I I realized I got to build a real organization, you know, and I got to have a players and I got to have a lot of them. And that's how you, you know, build an empire is you have a lot of people pushing your mission and I just I've kind of come to grips with that. You know, can't, you can't build an army with one person.

That's a great point. What does that mean now for your day to day? Like what? What are you doing on a daily basis? What's the main focus for you?

Yeah, day to day, I mean, and, by the way it look, especially with some with social media, you know like I always think of Tim Ferriss and get somewhat envious of him sometimes because, like, still to this day, tim Ferriss has like three people on his team and the dude's worth hundreds of millions of dollars, if not billions, and we just don't know. You know like. So you know some people can do it, but I'm just exploring on a day to day basis, like recruiting more talent, recruiting more people to work with me. If you're interested in working with me, you know I have an application, tribe accelerator dot com slash, slash, apply, and that's mainly for salespeople. You're hiring lots of salespeople right now. And, yeah, I'm just, I'm in the mindset of just building more systems so that more people can serve the mission that we're doing. And, of course, more people working for you know, something that I've built means that I actually provide a living to people, which is also really cool, you know. So not only does what I'm building get bigger, but I also get to help my team members by giving them a way to earn money. So, yeah, so I my day to day is just on learning and taking like a lot of action, like I'm in a period of time right now where you know I also I really like the Hormose mindset of open to close, where it's like you know you wake up, grab your coffee, do your breath, work and then just work until the objectives are done, however long that takes, you know. So that's a I've definitely very like mission focused mindset right now, which I definitely always have been, and I was six months ago, but even more now than ever, Like I. I think another thing that's changed is and in learning from reading, you know reading the Bible. If you read Romans 12 to it, the verse is about basically becoming, you know, a sacrifice to God. You basically sacrifice your life to the calling of the higher power. You know, and you basically say universe source, god, jesus, whoever you pray to, I'm willing to do whatever you want to use me to do. And you just become a vessel and you let that positive, spiritual God energy guide your life. If that means building a giant team, even though the ego in you might be like, oh, it sounds stressful, you just do it because you're just a vessel for God to steer.

Romans 12 to has that been Romans 12 to? It's a great point and I but I do find that sometimes for myself I'll have trouble distinguishing signal from noise, in terms of what is the calling versus what is the ego, or what is just my thinking being clouded. Has that been something you thought about?

Yeah, I think ultimately, you know, and I look back at just my journey and so called bad decisions, right, like, for example, I was in a really toxic relationship for a couple years, or sorry, for a year and on one hand, I made a lot of decisions that like would not you know that were that led me to a place where I was literally like broke and in a toxic relationship, someone cheating on me, you know. So like that's bad. But then I look at that and I'm like, well, I learned a lot. So there's really no such thing as like bad decisions. I just think about like taking as much action as possible, and again, 80, 20 action. So I'm constantly just trying to take 80, 20 action every day and and trying to think less honestly. I think if I, if I understand the 80, 20 principle, I strategize a plan and I stick to the plan and I take as much action every day, from open to close, as possible, I might fail, but if I fail I learn, and if I don't fail, I succeed and I learn from the wins.

So yeah, so you said you you finished leads from Hermosi. Was there any like anything that you didn't know coming in, that you discovered in the book, or any new insights, something in that world of marketing that really flipped that light bulb or made you have that light bulb moment?

Yeah, absolutely. I mean just the whole way that the program is organized. And you know, like I have big goals, big aspirations and I want to build, like, really big companies. And this was really the first time that I looked at it and I realized, okay, if I want to build a big company, I have to be really good at everything. I like I, I can't skip cold ads, I can't skip a referral program, I can't skip, you know, making sitting down and making dedicated short form content. Like all this you have to do. Not only do you have to do everything in the game of business, but you have to be an A player, 10 out of 10 at each area, and you have to hire 10 out of 10 A players for each department of your business. And, like before, I just was kind of in denial. I was like, yeah, well, I can do it with, like what I have and like it'll. The message was just resonant. It's like, no, no, you've got to be firing on all cylinders if you want to be competitive and there's no reason not to. You know, there's another thing I think that recently hit me was the most cliche quote of all time and it's funny how, like cliche quotes hit you at different times in your life and you're like now I get what they were talking about. But this one is what would you do if you knew you couldn't fail? The most cliche quote of all time. It doesn't get more basic personal development than that. But if you really think about it and you really apply it to your life, it's like hmm well, why don't I have 150 people working for me right now? Why do I only have 15? Why don't I have 10 times more than my capacity? If I knew I couldn't fail, that's what I would do, right. So let's do it. Let's try it. See what happens.

What a great way to just discover what your limiting beliefs are. Right, it's so simple but it really just helps to be like pierced out, like where am I limiting myself? Because, going back to the maxi stuff, like a lot of that stuff is just in your head, like all of those living beliefs like I even think about with the podcast on the day on day one where I had the idea and I was like why would anyone want to listen to me? Why would any guests that I would want to have want to come on the show? Like we just have these beliefs in our head and unless you take the steps to see whether they're true, we're never going to find out. That's a great way to pierce through those.

Yeah.

Arlen is, before we wrap up today, anything fundamental, anything that we haven't spoke about today, that you want to cover.

I think we should talk about why the earth is flat.

Yeah, you're losing me with this one dude. No, I'm kidding, it's an interesting. I saw you on your story posting about that the other day. Made me laugh because people you know it's weirdly such a polarizing topic.

Yeah, no, it's great, it's my favorite topic and I'm not sitting here a full on flatter there. I'm not going to say that I am, but I would say that I'm unconvinced that the world is a sphere. I remain unconvinced and I remain open to evidence if the evidence is presented to me. But as of right now, I think it's very funny that people are so convinced that the earth is round and if you bring up Possibility that earth could be flat, they get very upset, they get very offended and they can't give you a single argument as to why it might be flat and so it's funny how Sorry to cut you off.

I was just gonna say like no one suspends belief with anything. Like everybody has to have an opinion about everything, like you can't just be like I don't know. No one accepts that as an answer.

That's my point, right? It's like okay, you think the earth is round because it's just common sense, and you learn that in science class and Scientists have proved it. Have you been to space, like they say? Like here's, okay, here's, I'm just gonna break into my Conspe my latest conspiracy, okay. So earlier this week, as of the time we're recording this podcast, russia supposedly crashed a rocket on the moon and this seemingly came out of nowhere. In 47 years, russia and has not attempted to go to the moon, or India has not attempted Russia this beginning this week, sent a rocket to the moon, or so they say, and the rocket crashed in the south pole of the moon as they were looking to land there to collect samples from frozen moon pools that supposedly have rare elements and potentially, conditions where life can exist on the moon. And Monday or Sunday, russia crashed their rocket and when the news came out, I immediately sent to my, my my group chat. I have a few friends that are kind of in this suspension of disbelief, mindset about the shape of the earth, and I sent it to them and I said I Said guys, look at this plot that they are creating and what's really interesting Is it? If you start to think in terms of storytelling. Right, I was a film major, so I studied. I had a whole semester in college on storytelling. And when I look at the news articles that are coming out about this Russia rocket thing, I'm like this is the beginning of a story. Because how did they end the story on on about the rocket? They said the rocket crashed. Oh no, but Wednesday, wednesday, india is sending their rocket to the moon, and Will they land or will they crash? Now you're hooked.

Right, I hooked now. You're now. You're waiting for Wednesday.

So it's Friday as we're recording this Wednesday. Guess what? Supposedly India landed on the moon. They landed on the South Pole and this is the first time in 47 years that they've done this. And if you go on Twitter, you go on Twitter right now and look up I forget how the spell. It's like Shanya and drawn three or something is the name of the the space module thing that they put on moon, and there's pictures of this, but all the pictures are computer-generated images. And then I saw this picture on Twitter of this guy Celebrating. It's this Indian man in a, in a Like a space station right and he's celebrating. And I Looked at the image. I was like, wait a second, this image Looks like mid-journey. You're familiar with mid-journey. Yeah, yeah, they have a very distinct look to it does, so I'm sending you this image. This is something that was on Twitter that has 3000 retweets. I'm like that. That literally looks like mid-journey. So I just sent you this picture. I'm sorry for the listeners, but so, bro, so I wanted.

It's just like that hair that doesn't look real it and so I wanted to be journey and I typed this in.

If you see my picture. I typed in if, for those you that don't know, mid-journey is an AI image generation robot, basically, and and I typed it in, I typed in For the mid-journey prompt. I said create an image of a 65 year old Indian gentleman with long gray hair Celebrating in his office with colleagues fist pumping in the air. He is the general of the Indian space program. He has an ecstatic smile because India just landed a rocket on the moon. And here is the image that that I produced, sending this to you.

Let's go.

Yeah, it's funny because it's it look, it looks like the image that they were posting.

So, man, they could have at least just like taken an out of conflict. This is so mid-journey though I got. I could agree with you more.

So look, I'm not saying that that India didn't go to the moon. I'm just saying that all the images on the internet and that they are showing on the news our, our computer generated images. They are not real photos. And Isn't that interesting that it has a perfect story, plot Right, and we could go a lot further down the rabbit hole if you wanted to oh, we could go.

We could talk about this for days. We talked about aliens and the government talking about that. There's so many rebels. We could go down, but sadly, I think we got to save it for another time.

Part three is just conspiracies.

We got to do one of those. That be fun. Do you want to?

do a conspiracy episode, or is that not?

I would absolutely, I would love to do a conspiracy. No, I'm, I'm game for it. I.

I do a three, can we do a four-person podcast?

Yes, 100 because.

I have a few friends that are really into this stuff and I think it would blow up.

Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. I'm game for it, for sure We'll organize that. But, dude Arlen, always such a pleasure to speak with you, bro, you're so articulate and you make this so easy for myself. This hour, 45 right now, and I think our first one was almost three hours. It was that you make it too easy for me, bro, but just appreciate you and appreciate you coming on today.

Yeah, thank you, ryan, I think you're in it. You're an immaculate host of this podcast and you ask great questions and I look forward to seeing this grow and I look forward to the conspiracy episode. I want to just say for anyone listening that's like weirded out by the last 15 minutes that I'm not a flat earther and I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I'm merely a suspension of disbeliefer and a suspension of belief, and I I can be moved if you give me evidence, but I don't just take science as what the scientists say is true. I need to see it and I need multiple sources of truth. So so thank you all for listening.